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Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM  
I have a Quantum Energy spinning reel ( http://www.quantumfishing.com/products/1894/Energy-PTi.aspx ) that has a bail that doesn't always close and seems to "slip" during the retrieve. It is out of warranty and I need a repair shop. The website says Okie Tackle in BA. Any suggestions? OB1, do you repair these? Thanks.
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM  
Yes I can repair them - here is your exploded view



Slipping would be your ARB #37, Bail #28
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 10:43 AM  
Here is what I recommend to ALL spinning reel users NO MATTER WHAT SIZE OR BRAND -- ALWAYS close your bail MANUALLY -- do not rely on internal autobail close because you will wear the reel out faster -- the small parts just can't handle repeated stress

Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 11:16 AM  
Its probably the little spring on the bail. I can't tell in the diagram but it's around the hinge. You usually can call in the replacement part or try taking apart a ballpoint pen and use the spring. You'll have to cut it down though. I've done both. The pen spring isn't as strong, but will hold up for awhile if strong enough to pull the bail back. Maybe they sell similar springs at Ace or somewhere, but I haven't looked. An old scrapped reel might have the right size spring as well...
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Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 1:23 PM  
The Quantum Energy's do not have a bail spring. Instead they have the TiMag system which uses magnets to actuate the bail assembly open and close. Trickworm, what's the model number printed on the reel foot? The link you provided shows the newest model but it may actually be the prior version. You can mail the reels directly to Quantum or bring them to Okie Bait & Tackle which will save you on shipping costs.

I agree with ObeeWan, it is always better for a spinning reel to close the bail by hand. The biggest advantage in my opinion is better line management.
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 3:52 PM  
If you guys would buy Shimano reels, you wouldn't have problems wearing out the bails so quick. I love the spirex spinning reel, I have 5. The newest is about 5 years old, and is now finally ready for cleaning. I've had almost no issues with these reels even though they are less than $100. I am very hard on equipment, because of that, even my fly fishing rod is an Ugly Stick.
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 4:28 PM  
i will post number on reel seat tonite. These reels are only 1.5 years old. I cringed when I read UpDuhCreek's words b/c I was (AM) a diehard shimano guy for 20 years. I stepped out on a limb and bought two Quantum PTi's and feel like I've gotten bit in the butt. sure is pretty, but not worth the $$$ to me. TW
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM  
I'm planning to buy a larger spinning reel before too long.
Thanks for the tip upDuhcreek.
http://drw.50webs.com/fishing/fishing.html
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 4:41 PM  
LOL, Bassman I was looking at that wondering where the spring was! Scratch my comments...

upDUHcreek, I'm not a Shimano guy, but when it comes to spinning rigs I have the a couple Stradics and a few Symetres and have to say they have been almost flawless, with exception to burning the drag out on one of the Stradics! LOL, but when you are catching probably a 1,000 stripers on a 2500 up to 15lbs on 10lb test you are working that drag pretty well! They do make a good spinning rig in my opinion. I own a couple baitcasters and won't be buying anymore in the future, I'm an ABU guy there...
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Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM  
I buy Daiwa regals and really like them, nothing constructive other than that to add
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Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 5:08 PM  
Danny , I bought two Penn Sargus reels and so far am very happy with them, forget the Shimano crap, you are better off with Diawas, and I work on em all, giving you some insider advice -- the Sargus is bullet proof and isn't loaded with useless bearings that gum up --
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 5:13 PM  
Vlaude going to hijack this post when do you think they will turn off the water on the red I need to catch a stiper went to lower but couldn't find anything over 6 lbs
Posted on Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 at 5:38 PM  
Listen up Folks -- Bottom line for longevity of reels is where the internal parts are made - ALL of Daiwas gearing for ALL reels is made at the factory in JAPAN, all of the top end reels are totally mfg in Japan, on the low and mid range models the ASSEMBLY is done in China, Korea and Thailand. The MAJORITY of Shimano parts AND assembly are farmed out to places all over ASIA which results in poor quality control -- I see FAR more busted up and broken Shimano's and of equal quality FEW Daiwa reels. Shimano reels are generally overengineered with TOO MANY moving parts, Daiwa generally speaking is much simpler and will last longer for those of us who abuse small reels on large fish. I have bought just about every reel there is out there have even used Van Staals and top of the line Daiwas, at some point you pay for BLING and not functionality or bullet proof toughness -- the BEST spinning reels need ONLY FIVE bearings, one to support the rotor, possibly one to support the rear rotor shaft, one on each side of the main gear (and one on the line pick up roller) thats IT -- you are paying for useless bearings in a conventional wind spinning reels if you buy reels with more bearings, the crosswind reels which have a pawl and an internal worm will have a total of seven bearings -- thats it -- thats all you need, the over engineered reels will fail and won't last much more than three seasons in hard use, more if you are only a weekend warrior -- I HATE over -enginnering -- the best principle is and will ALWAYS be K.I.S.S. If you river fish and get your reels WET make sure they have STAINLESS steel bearings not corrosion resistant OR the new Ceramic bearings are just about bulletproof. Things I avoid in reels today China still does not make good gears or frames -- their metallurgy is just not on par YET Magnesium frames - too mch salt in the water in OK, don't care how much plating is done to the magnesium -- it just isn'y a good reel material Plastic frames Graphite frames #################################################################### Rigid machined aluminum, die cast aluminum or forged aluminum -- will last a lifetime,and parts will stay in their proper alignment tolerances - if you worry about what a reel weighs you need to take up another pastime
Posted on Wednesday Feb 10, 2010 at 8:29 AM  
Trickworm,
Wasn't trying to make you panic, just playing.
What are you using it for?

Vlaude
I personally would prefer casting reels for striper. I'm looking for monster fish, you know, the striper I'm looking for might not even know you've got him hooked if your only using 10lb test.
OB1
It seems to me like everyone's products are going down hill quickly. Lots of fishing companies have been purchased by big conglomorates who only care about cutting corners to save cash. Lawrance isn't the only casualty in this war. How many fishermen out there are upset because the ABU reel you've been using for decades is now suddenly a big hunk of China junk? I havn't even checked out the ugly sticks since they got taken over, I'm afraid I'll find another brand that's been ruined by new owners.
Posted on Wednesday Feb 10, 2010 at 10:06 AM  
Dunno, but I've been catching them with it on and off... There are some nice ones around in the saddles or pockets. Not sure when they are gonna stop. I'm guessing with more rain and more cold weather it might be a bit longer! That said the website shows it stopping today for a period in time. I'm going to make a call and see if it really has stopped. If it has I will be up there this evening by my lonesome! LOL Unless I talk someone into catching up. Don't know if that will hold though with more water coming in and cold temps. Endless I'll let you know what I find out. Maybe, you and Obeewan can make it down and we'll have a Striper party on the river! (note that was with 1 "p" don't want anyone getting the wrong idea!) LOL

LOL, upDUHcreek... Yeah I know the kind and in the river it doesn't take that big of a fish to fit that bill. Caught a 15lber last week in the current, 10lb test (2lb diameter) braid with a 2500 Stradic. LOL, Yeah she knew she was hooked up when I started pulling her towards the bank. She didn't like that and took off. I use baitcasters 85% of the time striper fishing but in the river its a bit different, due to the way I fish. So it's more spinning in the river, but I do bring the baitcasters too. Problem is I can't get the distance on some of the baits I throw with a baitcaster...


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Posted on Wednesday Feb 10, 2010 at 10:06 AM  
up DUH, you just have to be choosy and look carefully about what the reel has for internals, externally look for solid metal construction - there are a few good spinning reels being produced in almost all brand line -- but you are correct -- quality and longevity in less than $100 reels has taken a SERIOUS hit since the early nineties.

For instance -- the Penn Sargus reels I now use have a solid machined aluminum body -- NO external plastic, forged gears and stainless bearings -- assembly is done in China but parts are cut at a good Korean factory -- Reels coming out of Japan and Korea generally speaking the parts are good quality -- When I have to purchase parts to repair a reel usually the part that breaks is plastic internal which has chipped or cracked due to stress it wasn't designed for -- I am probably tougher than most on equipment, and I constantly try new gear to see if I can find tuff stuff -- the older Daiwa BG reels were and still are some of the toughest built reels there were, if you can find then the old Shakespere Whisker Titans were tough -- A lot of the Shimano, Garcia, Mitchell, and Daiwa stuff was made for single species fishing like largemouth, or crappie, they just won't hold up to serious long running fish, or even light saltwater -- I bought a pair of Cabo PTS baitcasters a year or so ago -- first 35# Jackfish burned out the drags and the reels started making creaking noises when reeled -- what a piece of Junk for $175.00. (sorry Quantum won't buy another)

I have purchased twenty older ABUS (Japanese market early nineties) that I will have till I croak, they are solid machined aluminum, including sideplates (all ABU Morrum reels)-- they don't make reels like that anymore with a LIFETIME warranty (which Pure Fishing won't honor)
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